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Thursday, July 3, 2008

Far-right activism

I write this letter to all voters who are moderate to liberal, and especially to the millions of women who didn’t vote in 2004. I see this election as the most important of our lifetimes because of the appointment of Supreme Court justices and believe you need to know the facts before voting this November.

There are at least three progressive judges on the Supreme Court who will probably retire in the next eight years. There are now four far-right justices: Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito. John McCain has promised to appoint judges in the line of those four. These justices are way to the right of the majority of public opinion. One more like them could send us back to the 19th century as far as progress for women’s rights, gay rights, minority rights and much more.

There are those on the right who have been working for decades to overturn decisions they hate, Roe v. Wade being their top choice to eliminate. And they want a total ban on abortion, even in instances of rape, incest and the life and health of the mother.

Their next big “get” will be Griswold v. Connecticut, the right to buy and use birth control. They still can’t get over Margaret Sanger and her 50-year war to make birth control legal. If fundamentalist pharmacists think they can refuse to fill a legal birth control prescription, you can imagine what a fundamentalist judge will decide to do with justices’ power to change laws.

They also want to go after Miranda, gun control laws and affirmative action.

Barack Obama will appoint justices who will uphold these rulings and not activist judges who those on the right try to make you think are the progressive choices. The four conservative judges are, in fact, the activist judges on behalf of right-wing ideology. They believe in states’ rights — unless a state wants to do something that is anathema to the right. For all the women out there, a vote for Barack Obama is a vote to maintain control of your own body, rather than have four old men and whomever a President John McCain chooses make the decisions for you.

Sondra Snapp, St. Joseph

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Food poisoning tops list

of Fourth of July concerns

What ever happened to the good old days when the worst things we had to fear on the Fourth of July were traffic jams and wayward fireworks? According to our government’s Meat & Poultry Hot line, this year’s top fear is food poisoning by those nasty E. coli and salmonella bugs lurking in inadequately grilled hamburgers and hot dogs. Of course, they don’t bother to mention that high-temperature grilling that kills the bugs also forms cancer-causing compounds.

Luckily, a bunch of enterprising food manufacturers and processors have met this challenge head-on by developing a great variety of healthful, delicious and convenient veggie burgers and soy dogs. These new foods don’t harbor nasty pathogens or cancer-causing compounds. They don’t even carry cholesterol, saturated fats, drugs or pesticides. And, they are available in the frozen food section of every supermarket.

This Fourth of July offers a great opportunity to declare our independence from the meat industry and to share wholesome veggie burgers and soy dogs with our family and friends.

Stewart Slate, St Joseph

Posted by Rax on July 3, 2008 at 6:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope more far-right justices get appointed. Then maybe we can start getting back to decency, morality, and personal responsibility in this country. We have had too much liberal input and our country is on a massive decline with respect to moral values. Our teen girls are getting pregnant at an alarming rate, our nations children are dropping out of school, etc. I believe we need to get back to more of the far-right mentality. And I don't believe this line of thinking is as much of a minority point of view as you might think.

Posted by dalearch on July 3, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Among other things that Ginger fails to mention in her letter is the fact that Obama supports partial birth abortion – the name of which the libs have tried to change to “late term abortion”. They think this sounds better.

I really believe that if more people knew how a “late term abortion” is performed they would not support them. I’ve re-posted the explanation below.

The baby is turned around so that its legs come out first, but they only pull it out of the mother until part of the skull is out. This way the baby is not yet legally "born". They punch a hole at the base of the skull, insert a metal suction tube and suck out the baby’s brains.

I guess these animals think this is humane.

Posted by heritage on July 3, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

read "the nine" by toobin. great insight into the court and its make-up. easy to digest, not a lot of legalese.

Posted by sunny13 on July 3, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen, Rax

Posted by MODem on July 3, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Late term abortion is only used in America when the life and health of the mother is in jeopardy. Those on the right would like for you to think otherwise and will lie and cheat and go to any length to make you think it is used as a birth control method which is utterly ridiculous. If you had a wife or mother or sister or daughter or friend whose life depended on having an abortion late in her pregnancy which would you choose, the fetus or your loved one?

Posted by Mr_America on July 3, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I find it hard to believe the mothers life would be in any greater danger if they delivered the baby alive as opposed to delivering the baby after taking his/her life.

Posted by dalearch on July 3, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MODem:

Horsefeathers. (That’s not what I wanted to say.)

Have you been in attendance at each of these baby slaughters?

Talk about lying and cheating.

Posted by familyguy on July 3, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Great job bringing up Margaret Sanger, GingerSnapp. She started Planned Parenthood to try and wipe out the blacks in the nation with her radical eugenics program. She wanted birth control for women to force those groups she didn't like to stop having kids. You anti-lifers forget that fact when you bring her up as your Savior.

YOUR liberal activism is abortion-on-demand for any reason, whenever it's needed, on the tax-payers dime. Planned Parenthood receives more than $300 million from the government each year. I help pay for women to kill their unborn babies because you fight to keep it legal. I hope people will finally wake up to the atrocity of abortion and vote for policians who will end this abomination. I also hope the progressive/moderate/liberal women out there realize that 1/2 of the millions of babies that are killed by abortion in this country each year are female. You're supporting the termination of million of your sisters in utero. I guess "Women's Rights" only applies to those that have been given the opportunity to be born.

Posted by familyguy on July 3, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MODem, you just nailed the difference between the pro-abortionists and the anti-abortionists. We see the "fetus" as a "baby" since that is what he/she really is. It can't magically become a baby when he/she is wanted and become a fetus when it is aborted. You use the term fetus to relinquish your conscience and allow the "termination of a pregnancy." I'm sure it's not as palatable to state, "I think it's ok for women to choose to terminate their baby in utero for any reason." That sounds diabolical. But, that's what you, and most in the Dem party, believe.

To answer your question, I would have a very difficult time trying to choose between the BABY and my wife. Knowing how D&Es are performed, I would probably opt for trying to save the baby. My wife and I hold our children (including unborn) as sacred and worthy of life. We would take our chances and try and have the baby.

Posted by Eric on July 3, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

These are all outstanding rebuttals to Ginger's letter. If only there was a way we could convince her that if she and Barack Obama get their way, the very things that she claims to fear would happen if the not-so-conservative McCain is elected would much more likely take place with more terrorist attacks and the eventual imposition of Islamic Sharia law upon our country.

Why are those of us who are pro-life so vilified while women in fundamentalist Islamic countries have zero--and I mean ZERO--rights, and the militant feminists say little or nothing about that? We who are pro-life love women and children equally. Radical Muslim men seem to love neither. Why, Ginger, can you not understand this?

Posted by Eric on July 3, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lest anyone think I'm exaggerating, or think, "oh, it can never happen here in America," I share this British Daily Mail article with you: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...

The seeds of Islamic Sharia law have just been planted by Britain's Chief Justice. Read the tea leaves. Does it really take a vivid imagination to think that there will eventually be an attempt to spread this ideological poison across the Atlantic? Ginger had better be darned careful what she wishes for in putting all of her political eggs in Obama's basket!

Posted by outoftowner on July 3, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is amazing to me how someone can believe that McCain would bring back decency, morality, and personal responsibility to this country. Isn't this up to the parents to teach there children these things. Last time I checked McCain was busy courting his next wife while he was still married to his first. How can you say that is moral or even decent?

I am originally from the St Joe area and the teen pregnancy and high school dropouts in this town are much higher than anywhere else that I lived in the country. And last time I checked St Joe was a "red" city. Being such a strong Republican area why would it have so much higher levels of teen pregnancy and high school dropouts? The area that I currently live is one of the most liberal cities in the US. With our yearly gay parade you would think that we would have the highest teen pregnancy rate and high school dropouts with your logic!! It is interesting because most people I know here don't even have there first kids until they are in there 30's. You can't say that about St Joe! Most people that are in there 30's are already having there grandkids. So much for Republican morality and decency.

I suggest that some of you that have never been outside of your "red" boundaries of St Joe take a vacation to a nice liberal city like San Francisco, Houston, or New York and see how the rest of the world lives!! This may change your opinions some on how the rest of us live.

Posted by gingersnapp on July 4, 2008 at 2:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rax: You make me laugh, thank you. You have made my 4th of July really fun with the laughs I will get with my family discussing your comments. Just because you live in a really "red" city doesn't mean that St. Joe is in the majority opinion of all of America. Let's ask the opinions of Kansas City and St. Louis right here in our own state. When people live with the diversities of big cities, the majority becomes much more blue and liberal leaning.

As far as many more teen pregnancies being the norm at this moment in time let's blame Mr. 23% approval rating for taking birth control education out of health classes in schools, and replacing it with abstinence only. I fully support abstinence but with the teaching of the different forms of birth control. Believing that teaching abstinence only will prevent pregnancy is like trying to teach a duck not to quack because it might makes its throat sore.

Familyguy: whatever else Margaret Sanger was, her legacy as far as us women are concerned, will always be the legalization of birth control, the most important key to women being able to free themselves from the home to the workplace. And until evolution makes the sexual act heinous, painful and for procreation proposes only, Ms.
Sanger’s ideas about women’s bodies belonging to them will be one of the most progressive ideas in a hundred years.

MODem: You are sooooo right about late term abortion. It is the same as the “estate tax” with the wingnuts trying to make everyone think it has anything whatsoever to do with them and be all outraged about it, when it is only the Paris Hilton’s of
America that has to worry about it. They lie, lie and lie some more.

Familyguy: I hope you asked your wife whether she would rather live or abort. If not you are no better than those four old men Supreme Court Justices who would not ask either!

Eric: And just how does Senator Obama have anything to do with Sharia?

Outoftowner: I agree with all you say. McCain and his wife Cindy are such hypocrites with their adultery and Cindy’s theft of drugs from her own charity, it is an embarrassment to all those that live moral lives. As someone who has been to Houston, NYC and San Francisco I totally agree with you about how much better people’s lives are in those cities.

Posted by Rax on July 4, 2008 at 6:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ginger,
As usual, your feeble attempt at wit failed miserably. To begin with I never said anything about St. Joseph being "red", I simply said that hopefully we can get more justices seated on the supreme court who will make rulings that can start to bring back decency, morality, and personal responsibility to this country. It would certainly be a pleasant change if you would read the entire posting and not twist it in your usual liberal way. Hope you and your family have a safe and happy 4th...say hello to Cody for me.

outofowner,
If you'll read my posting (the real words not the liberal "between the lines" stuff) I said nothing about John McCain being more morally straight than anyone else. I have been to San Francisco, Houston and New York, as well as many other places in this great country and I have seen the depravity brought about by liberal views, and it always gives me a great deal of pleasure when I hear the captain say "Ladies and Gentlemen, we've been cleared for take-off" and I know I get to leave.

Posted by janiepoo on July 4, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sondra Snapp:

Thank you for writing your wonderful letter. All of my friends and family were thrilled to read your letter because we all agree with you 100%. Keep up your good work. Hopefully our nation will get a new Democratic president and we can begin to heal the fissures that were created by the Bush regime. This is what we are praying for.

Posted by dalearch on July 4, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's something interesting.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx...

Posted by dalearch on July 4, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When you click on the above link and the page has opened, scroll down to watch the video.

Posted by Eric on July 4, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are many elements of Louis Farrahkan's Nation of Islam in Pastor Jeremiah Wright's church. Barack Obama would choose Supreme Court nominees who would place foreign laws over our own Constitution when deciding cases. That combined with his certain gross neglect of his responsibilities as commander-in-chief of our armed forces would create the conditions that would make the imposition of Islamic Sharia law much more likely than under a McCain presidency. Author Brigitte Gabriel ("Because They Hate") personally eyewitnessed the violent takeover of Lebanon by Hezbollah beginning in the mid-1970s. Obama's gross incompetence and sympathy for radical Islam (notice I'm not saying he is a Muslim) would hasten the same thing happening in America.

When Reagan was President, women could still drive and be accompanied by men other than their husbands in public. Something to think about. And I'm not a tenor in John McCain's choir. I would have much preferred Duncan Hunter or Mike Huckabee.

Posted by Eric on July 4, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My goodness, Dalearch, I'm bookmarking that video on my computer. That is quite an expose to say the least! Thank you so much for sharing it with us.

May all of you have a happy and safe Independence Day! Please pray and give thanks for our military troops and for our country.

Posted by dalearch on July 5, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Eric:

Isn't it funny how so many people can just blindly vote for someone because he is black or democrat or "inspiring" (yuck) or some other stupid reason?

Posted by dondill on July 5, 2008 at 10:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dalearch:

Oh, it is so funny how people choose their presidents. How about this one - "He's the kind of guy I'd want to sit down and have a beer with." Well, look what that got us. A complete fiasco (ugh). Talk about a stupid reason!

Posted by dalearch on July 5, 2008 at 10:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dondill:

As usual, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't think you do either.

Posted by janiepoo on July 6, 2008 at 1:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why so befuddled learch? Anyone who knows anything about politics knows that in the race between Bush and Kerry the big question that was posed to voters was; which candidate would you most want to sit down and have a beer with and would this make you want to vote for this person. The majority responded that they would choose to drink with Dubya (nonalcoholic for Dumbya of course). Borrowing from your words, I think this was a stupid reason to vote for a persident. I think it's a dumber reason than any of the reasons you noted. As a result of this dumming down of the voting decisions, we got a dumb president. Does this make sense to you Learch? Let me know if you can't keep up.

Posted by dalearch on July 6, 2008 at 6:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

janiepoo:

I don’t know that I heard about the drinking beer question. If I did, I evidently didn’t think it important enough to remember it.

I decided not to come back with anything mean spirited. My Sainted Mother always told me not to pick on people that were obviously mentally challenged and less fortunate than me.

Posted by gingersnapp on July 6, 2008 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AHHHH, Dalerch you have hit upon the reason janiepoo and I don't pick on you that much. Too bad for us, because there would be so much fodder there!!!!!

Posted by dalearch on July 7, 2008 at 7:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ginger:

I will admit, it is hard for me to adopt a socialist mentality so I can think like you two.

Posted by familyguy on July 8, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

From Ginger: "Familyguy: whatever else Margaret Sanger was, her legacy as far as us women are concerned, will always be the legalization of birth control, the most important key to women being able to free themselves from the home to the workplace. And until evolution makes the sexual act heinous, painful and for procreation proposes only, Ms. Sanger’s ideas about women’s bodies belonging to them will be one of the most progressive ideas in a hundred years."

I find it fascinating that you simply sweep under the rug that Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood as a front to wipe out the black population through eugenics. Planned Parenthood still targets lower-income, poverty-stricken, mostly black neighborhoods to peddle their wares. If Margaret Sanger had had her way, your Messiah wouldn't even be alive to run for POTUS. That's some legacy.


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