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Northwood residents criticize adult curfew
by Alonzo Weston
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Pat Sollars says she is generally pleased with her lease at Northwood Terrace Apartments, except she would like a screen door to let in the fresh air.

Photo by Eric Keith / St. Joseph News-Press

Pat Sollars says she is generally pleased with her lease at Northwood Terrace Apartments, except she would like a screen door to let in the fresh air.

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Some Northwood Terrace Apartments residents are upset about restrictions in a new lease agreement.

A 10 p.m. curfew for all residents, including adults, is one of the restrictions that’s causing distress for at least one resident.

Robyn Kelly said she’s lived at the North Side complex for 18 years and never had any problems with the lease agreements. That’s why she said she signed the new agreement without bothering to read it.

“I figured it was the same thing, so I didn’t bother to read it,” she said. “I think a lot of the other people didn’t either.”

But when she looked over the contract several days later, the 10 p.m. curfew didn’t sit right with her. It said all residents should be inside, along with their guests, unless traveling from one place to another. Those who did not follow the rule would be in violation of the agreement.

“I feel if I want to sit outside and enjoy the summer breeze I don’t want to get written up,” said the 47-year-old woman who lives in the apartment complex with her 21-year-old son and 10-year-old daughter.

Robyn Kelley says she thinks some of the lease requirements at Northwood Terrace Apartments are extreme.

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Robyn Kelley says she thinks some of the lease requirements at Northwood Terrace Apartments are extreme.

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She said if her son goes outside to smoke after curfew, he’ll be in violation.

“I don’t let nobody smoke in my house, so he’s outside at 11 smoking cigarettes and they happen to drive through, then he gets wrote up,” she said. “This all started after they did the renovations and Fulson Housing Group took over last year.”

Fulson Housing Group, based in Lee’s Summit, Mo., revised the lease agreement for its tenants in February after doing some extensive remodeling.

Not only did the lease include a community policies and procedures agreement that imposed a 10 p.m. curfew for all its residents, it restricted personal belongings from being displayed on porches, stairwells and patios, among other things.

Pat Sollars said it’s not the curfew that bothers her and her husband, Herbert.

“We’re not out at that time anyway,” said the 81-year-old woman.

But it’s the fact that management says they can’t have a screen door. There is a petition circulating to get that restriction lifted, Mrs. Sollars said.

“We’re closed up all winter, and in the summer, you have to keep everything closed up,” Mrs. Sollars said. “We don’t like air conditioning, we like fresh air. But you can’t open your door.”

Pete Marrone, spokesperson for the Fulson Housing Group, said his company is aware of the complaints. They are currently dealing with a legal matter regarding the lease agreement. Fulson owns other rental properties, but Mr. Marrone would not say which of the properties are involved in legal complaints.

“I have spoken with my attorney, and under his advice, I can’t comment on my lease at this time,” Mr. Marrone said.

Jerre Moore, an attorney for Legal Aid of Western Missouri, said that the curfew seemed rather unfair. But there’s little that can be done if residents already signed the agreement.

“It depends on when they met with the manager, did she go over this with them? If this was given to them and explained to them and they signed the lease, then they’re agreeing to those terms,” she said. “I think they haven’t accepted those terms if it wasn’t given to them or it wasn’t explained to them.”

Ms. Kelly said the managers didn’t explain the changes in the new lease agreement to her.

“They just said this is this, you need to sign here, blah, blah, blah,” she said.

Mrs. Sollars said she and her husband have lived in the complex for seven years without any problems. But in recent years there’s been drug activity and other crimes in the complex, she said. She believes that may be part of why the curfew was put in place. Even at that, it’s rarely enforced, she said.

“When (the managers) leave on Friday night, we don’t see them until Monday morning, and the police are getting so they don’t even want to come up here,” she said.

“It was beautiful when we first moved here. It’s just since new people took over,” Mrs. Sollars added.

“It’s just a Mickey Mouse place anymore.”

Alonzo Weston can be reached at alonzow@npgco.com.

Posted by MichaelH on July 16, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Go figure...

A landlord wants his investment to last as long as possible without the influx of drug deals and peoples trash on their front porches.

I've done work in that complex, and while not everyone there is filthy, it's the filthy ones that ruin it for the rest.

I'm not even going to bother asking why a grown man is living with mom, but at least he's young enough that if he doesn't like it - he can move!

Also, the screen door thing - they look horrible on apartment complexes. Primarily because the residents don't take care of them. Again, this isn't everyone but another case of the few spoils it for the rest.

To be honest though, I've never understood why someone would want their doors open in an apartment complex. Seems a bit ghetto to me...

Posted by Joe_Wright on July 16, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If you don't like the situation...move.

Posted by wickedtruth on July 16, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As the article says and picture reflects, Mrs. Sollars is an 81 year old woman, who I'm sure went through the majority of her youth without air conditioning. You're calling an old woman ghetto because she wants to have her front door open to let in fresh air?

I do agree that the owner wants to make its investment last, but in the landlord/tenant business you go into it knowing that you have to take the bad with the good.

This should be a lesson to tenants (and anyone else about to sign any sort of agreement) everywhere...READ BEFORE YOU SIGN! Never trust that the language in the document is going to be the same, especially when a new owner is involved. That's just common sense.

Posted by akm on July 16, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't the apartments have windows?

Posted by Mr_America on July 16, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe some of the residents are used to the lights out, lock down routine?

Posted by mom on July 16, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I live here in Northwood with my young children and what a beautiful place it has become. It is clean and well maintained, the staff is helpfull and kind. The only problem as with everything in life is with a few undisirables spoiling things for the whole group. These young men, and thats being generous, spend their nights prowling our parking lots. Residents are bothered by loud music, foul language, and a constant flow of traffic that pulls up to the group and then leave within a few moments. With these hoodlums has come cars broken into, smashed windows in our cars, and vandalism to the property. We have always had a curfew here, it has just been moved up an hour. The management doesn't bother people who step out their doors to smoke and are not bothering anyone else. Many of us do the same thing and are met with a kind wave of hand. They do however have a problem with those who are wondering in these groups and causing problems.

I have a problem with the fact that only two people out of our entire complex were interviewed for this story. If Mr. Weston would have done his research he would have found that they were in the minority. The other residents are glad we live in a place that tries to keep us safe and our property safe. As a mother trying to raise responsible children I would never alow my child to linger around in parking lots at all hours of the night. It is obvious that they are ingaged in delinquent behavior and their parents are only incouraging it.

The management should continue to inforce this rule to keep all the residents safe. Installing cameras in the parking lots to monitore for illegal activity would also be a bonus to curb this situation. The visibility of the Saint Joseph Police Department would also be helpfull.

So way to go Northwood for keeping me and my family safe.

Posted by amy on July 16, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess this goes to show how one sided the paper can really be. Had Mr. Weston done a little more work he would have found that there are plenty of residents that feel the office is attempting to make this a safer place for our family's. If he would have contacted the police dept he would have found that there have been increases in vandilism and in people hanging out in the parking lots after hours. Its funny when you don't see anyone all day and then late at night they are walking the neighborhood. If your not up to no good then why can't you be seen during the day time. Also if all you want to do is smoke cigarettes then why are you wondering through the parking lots looking into cars? People here would love to do something about all of this but let me tell you any time we have then something happens to our children or our property. So would you want to put your name in the paper for more bad things to happen to you. My guess is NO, so therefore our side of the story will go untold. So thank you Mr Weston for helping those of us who are fearful of what may happen if we tell our side of the story.

Posted by dalearch on July 16, 2008 at 10:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mom & Amy:

Thanks for telling your side of the story. Unfortunately for you and the other good folks there, the common sense side doesn't sell papers.

Posted by BlueMoon1941 on July 17, 2008 at 1:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I live at northwood too and before you blame the parents for letting thier kids run wild maybe you better look closer at who you see out there hangin out in the parking lots.They are the parents and some of them drag thier little ones out there too.also some of the new rules dont make any sense at all. explain why you are not allowed a goldfish? one little goldfish that my nieghbor had to flush and her son cried for days cause he won that at a school carnival or her daughter that had to give up her dwarf hamster. how about only having 3 walls to put anything but dont use the one with the window so if there is a fire you can get out. well for one the people upstairs wouldnt be able to reach thier windows anyway. and how come they didnt take a vote during the remodel meeting on what we wanted. i already have a microwave and fans a washer dryer hook up would have been nice or even a dishwasher i would have gladly paid the difference in the water bill. i am one of the older ones that live out here at northwood and if they want to make it safe for us ..how come they are not fixing the burnt out parking lot lights or getting someone to live on site so after the office closes for the night and on weekends they can see what goes on or maybe at least get it to stop some. the people who live in the back of the buildings have it worse cause what goes on back there cant be seen from the road and yet they throw some of the other elderly and disabled to put up with it instead of putting them back in their orginal apts to start with. amy the cameras is a very good idea but so is if mangement would do a better job of screening applicants and not moving in friends and friends of friends etc.... and getting paperwork done on time. by the way where else can you be threatened with a lease violation cause you are sick and ask your grown daughter to bring you some groceries on her way back from the vet and leaves her dog in HER CAR what is also sad is the poor womans daughter didnt even go inside cause she didnt want to get sick ethier. like i said i am a older resident and would like to know how come if northwood is a income based there are no handicap parking unless you happen to be one of the special chosen few? wonder if the city has someone we can talk to about the ADA not being done here even the office is not handicapped accessible. well we shall find out tomorrow.

Posted by BlueMoon1941 on July 17, 2008 at 2 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ok i need to make a correction it was mom that suggested the camera to monitor the lots and not amy but it is still a good idea ..sorry ladies i am old so guess old timers hit me for a few minutes there. again i am so sorry to get you 2 mixed up like that.


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