Palin is so overrated... you could put a lot of other "moms" in this position and get the same result. i'm not saying that the world does not need moms, cuz we do. i'm simply saying she is OVERRATED.

Go ahead liberals, start your attacks. I encourage you to attack anything and everything about her you can. That is the best thing you can do for Republicans.

ok, i'll attack her some more. what kind of woman supports aerial wolf hunting? she's calls that a sport? flying around and exhausting animals, then shooting them is hardly a sport. next thing you know she will be supporting cock fighting.

Palin did an excellent job getting up there and delivering her speech but wasn't it all things we have heard before? Was there anything new in it? I was hoping she would address some of issues that I have questions about-- the same things that the media is trying to question her about but are being made out to look like the bad guys. Maybe if she would have made comments about the investigation into "troopergate" or into her family situation, it may have given me into more insight into Sarah Palin.

George Bush could have stood up there and given the same basic speech. In fact, he has before. Palin chose Matt Scully as her speech writer and he has written Bush's speeches in the past.

The only speech that I have been able to uncover that she probably wrote herself was a graduation speech from this past year. It is pretty scary to listen to it or to read the transcript of it and think she is running for VP. That is why I wish she would have hit hard on some of her personal issues in her speech last night. Hopefully, McCain's campaign will let her be interviewed by the mainstream press soon so we can hear in her own words how she really stands on some of the issues facing America today.

Keep coming...Come on guys, is this the best you've got?

i will agree that the media has made way too big of deal about her daughter getting pregnant. she's a teenage girl, these things happen. i'm not saying it's a good idea to get knocked up at age 17... but whatever.

another positive thing about Palin... she's kinda hot.

Sarah Palin hit a GRANDSLAM last night!

...and as an added bonus, the swipes at Obama left me smiling. She was right on the mark! Very impressive! I look forward to her getting into the White House.

She is a person that alot of people, yes especially Mother's, can relate too. Of course not far left libs, they will have their foaming at the mouth attacks, and the far-fetched things that libs are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill with really just confirms the libs insecurities. :)

I am sure the Obama-Biden camp were a little disgruntled last night and the next few days Obama and his 300 advisors will be trying to attack everything about her.

:)

I don't think any of them write their own speeches.

I think the press were pretty impressed with her last night, even CNN. Yes, I do agree she will need to prove herelf out on the trail, but I don't think she will be telling one crowd what they want to hear, and then flip flop for another crowd to get in their good graces.

Yes, all of them have speech writers, but Palin is the only one they mention it on...why? because she is a woman thats why. People are still very sexist in this day and age. The things that she is being asked about would never be asked about or made a big deal of by male candidate with the same beliefs, etc. She will not only have to prove herself, but prove herself more than a male candidate would. She will, wait and see.

And buy into this gospel? She is alot more down to earth believable than Mr. Obama, all he does is talk talk and never any substance yet he has a cult-like following. It wouldn't suprise me if he does win based on that alone. Hogwash and Brainwash.

Obama has never done anything but talk without saying anything, promise the moon if he has to to get you to buy into his phony balogny.

I believe, BASED on facts and experience, that a McCain-Palin ticket will keep me safer than an Obama-Biden ticket would.

Its no wonder she has you guys all running scared!

I find it amusing people are touting her for her hits on Obama.

Does she, and the rest cheering her on, not realize that while he may not be suitable for the presidency, Barack Obama is one of the greatest speakers of our generation.

She is going to be made an even larger fool once Obama gets his turn to speak about her. It's time to put the conventions aside as everyone knows they don't produce anything new. Only a party grounds for the respective party. We need to start looking at track records because they are the only consistency in politics.

And what is with the incessant antagonizing GopGuy? You really gonna shout from some soapbox as if your political affiliation somehow affords you the luxury of having never been wrong or never having reasons to be disappointed? You're just a little fanboy no better than a 5th grader bragging about how his X-Box 360 is better than everyone elses Wii and PS3. Grow up child.

On a side note; Google Chrome is HOT! Best browser I've ever seen and it's only Beta - check it out. Ultra fast page loads are an understatement.

Man, not for nothing but you folks need to knock it off with all the, "keep me safe" crap.

It's nonsense. You wanna know who will keep you safe? Stay out of gang neighborhoods? What, that doesn't apply? Sure it does.

Everyone here knows 22nd & Messanie St. is dope central. Does anyone here hang out down there? I bet not. Why? Because you know what's there and don't want a part of it.

Our president should damn-well know better too. You want to be safe - LET OTHER PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES. Don't go meddling and you needn't worry about someone hunting you when you sleep. Crashing planes into buildings.

Atrocities are going to happen so long as humans occupy the Earth. WHOLE COUNTRIES hating us for our long-arm police tactics doesn't have to be a reality.

We can simply stop meddling. If someone is a real threat - we shouldn't be the only people to notice or admit it. If they are only a threat to us, why pull anyone else into it?

I'm not talking about the current situation - it's done, we need to remove ourselves from there and move on.

But in the future - if you want to feel, "protected," find a president who won't meddle.

I agree MichaelH that Obama is a great speaker. I think that is why he has the supporters that he has even without being quite yet ready for the White House. He just might win because of it. I think he really should have waited another 8 years, proved himself more, and maybe I would have considered him then..(well I would still have issues with him on a moral ground). I don't think his wife, although I am sure a very intelligent person as well, has helped Americanize him. It's just a vibe she puts out, intended or not. Also, I'm not sure if Biden will share the limelight very well, I think he wants his fair share, I think he will suffocate Obama a little.

But on track records, I don't think Obama has much of one, well not impressive yet, thats the problem. McCain has a long track record though, so like him or not, at least people will have something tangible to base it on.

I don't know which one said it, was B. Clinton that electing Obama to the Presidency will be like rolling the dice, not quite sure what you will get. We can't afford another Jimmy Carter at this point with everything going on in the world, etc.

well, I know one thing for sure--I will be for Obama all the way now!! People that have to cut down others only show their lack of self worth... She has no business to even be in this election!! Obama All The Way!!

Michael- one of the great things about America is that when there are atrocities happening, we are one of the few countries that step in and help.

And because there are crazed exremists out there, unfortunately we have to stay plugged into whats going on, to do otherwise would be suicidal. I'm not saying everything the US has been involved in is warranted, but I think its usually more right than wrong.

I don't want our country to lose what it is, our freedoms, etc.

Agree, I stay away from the well known neighborhoods too, but the police monitor that area more, trying to keep crime down, etc. See what I mean?

Should their be another 911, I would much rather have McCain than Obama looking out for our interests and I base that off of past experiences and integriities.
Just my opinion though.

I hope Obama focuses his attention on Palin. He forgets that he is not running against her, but her boss McCain. VPs are perfect for being the attack dogs. That will allow McCain to get his message out and keep Obama on the defensive with Palin.

I find it amusing that the liberal Dems can't stand that a woman can be a pro-life mother of 5, a hunter, a civil servant, a chief executive of a state and still speak eloquently and with humor. Palin breaks the mold on feminism in this country. NOW and the other supposed "women's rights" groups can't take that one of their gender won't tow the liberal line. I wholeheartedly support Palin as VP and I will work hard to get her and McCain into the White House.

sylviam- I'm still blinking at your post. How can you sit there and right that when the media, libs, and yes Obama and Biden have attacked her for the last week, and she remained silent. She didnt attack his family at all. She did, however, rebutted a few things that they were trying to knock her down in the first place. She contrasted her experience to Obama, but just what did she "cut down others"? I mean we all know in politics that they will go after each other, all parties are guilty of that. I think it is obvious though that people and media so far have been bigger critics and harsher on Palin than any other candidate. I think she handled herself well. But, I do see if you are an Obama supporter, her speech last night probably hit a little hard.

McCain is nothing like Bush. I can't understand why people keep saying that. He is in the same political party and thats about where it ends.

I do like that you assume McCain will be in office for eight years.

Family guy-

Don't you find it odd that Obama camp keeps comparing Palin to Obama? She is running for VP and him the prez, it says alot that Obama really was VP material at best.

Obama had to get someone really experienced as VP to give himself more merit. McCain can stand on his own record.

Shoot Palin might just have inspired me to get involved/volunteer in the area Republican group, and I'm neither Rep or Dem.

it was completely inappropriate to bring the young man who impregnated bristol onto the stage. he is not a member of the palin family. is this what this woman thinks represents good family values?

Obama did not have to get someone famous to win the ticket! open your eyes! McCain is the one who knew he could not win the election because he's old and boring.... which is why he picked up lady Palin... She's stealing the spotlight from McCain... Biden is not stealing the spotlight from Obama. Obama could win this election even if he was stuck with SuzyQ as his VP... The man has POP!

Mr A- I heard it somewhere but I have yet to research it but this 90% voting with Bush thing they keep trying to tout, but yet they fail to mention it was something like 97% bipartisan voting the same way with Bush.

throw bristol palin under da busssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!! good move for a great mother.

Well, SuzyQ---I didn't watch her last night--Hit Hard--NO!! I just go from what the media had to say about her--Wouldn't give her the time of day!!! I agree with the other post-the one about "Do we really want things like they are?" WE will get the same if not worse if McCain gets in!! I can't afford any more Republicans!

ninja- thanks for the compliment ;-)

grimjack- I am laughing at the title JohnMcbush...do you think anything from there would be fact? Wow, incredible.

Don't think that site would be at least a teency weency a bit biased now would ya..but hey everything out on the internet is fact right? Wasn't it your man Gore that invented internet?

Just let the media spoon feed you like a good lib sylviam.

sylviam- you can watch her speech in its entirety on the web. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Not saying she will win you over or anything, but you should really watch it.

Why is it today that all you liberal bloggers on this site have laid off the personal attacks on her? Where are the attacks on her marriage, her children, and the comments about her not being able to manage a family and an executive position?
For the past few days, all you liberals could do was slam her on those issues. This morning, there seems to be a 'change' in your attacks. Why is that?
Come on MichaelH & ninja_man, I expect you to do better than discuss issues.
Heritage has come close with his lovely observation that 'it was completely inappropriate to bring the young man who impregnated bristol onto the stage. he is not a member of the palin family. is this what this woman thinks represents good family values?'
Way to go Heritage. Keep up the good work. I knew I could count on you.

You holler about McCain's voting record; But at least he voted!!!! He did not just answer "present".

ok, lets talk about her "family values".... does she take an active role in raising her children? does she treat her man well? she has a nanny to take care of the kids, I wonder who is taking care of her husband? ~wink~

nice post grimjack!

next thing you know she's gonna say her daughter's a virgin!

Nice job guys...Keep the insults and personal attacks coming. You are only going to help the McCain/Palin ticket with these attacks. I LOVE IT.

we love YOU gopguy!!

Good...Please encourage other liberal bloggers in the national spotlight to do the same. You guys fail to realize something, America fell in love with her last night. No, not all of America, but I can assure you independent voters thought, 'Wow, I like her'.
She has endured more hateful attacks than any other VP candidate -- all within a matter of five days. She came out last night with a charming personality, great platform, and presented her case strongly.
I understand it must me difficult to be a Democrat today, especially with (yawn) Biden as your VP candidate. Keep up with the vile attacks. I'm sure they will work...Just not in your favor. More politics as usual from you guys.

The police officer involved in "troopergate" tasered his own 10-year old son and then threatened to kill other members of the family. But, to a Chicago community organizer that would just be a case of tough love.

I do a ton of public speaking for my job, am an educated woman, up to date on politics, the global economy and have been elected to various boards..... I am in NO way qualified to run for that kind of office just because I can give a great speech...nor is Sarah Palin. Being mayor of a town of under 9,000 and then being governor of a state for less than 2 years that is the size of San Bernadino, CA, does not make her qualified either. One of my biggest concerns is that a woman who had a special needs child a mere four months ago, who professes to have great family values, is running for the 2nd highest office in this country and no one seems to care. I am not saying that women should not run for office because they have children, I just think her timing is way, way off. I too agree, putting the "baby daddy" on stage was a disgrace, especially considering that it was only a couple weeks ago his myspace page was filled with the most vulgar comments, dropping fbombs left and right, professing he was an $#ing alaskan redneck,was in a relationship and didn't want any #$ing kids. Now, his page is set to private and he's cleaned up and made presentable and put on stage. So many times over the past few days its been said by Palin that her daughter and this guy were getting married. Why? For appearances sake? It would be far better for this child to not marry a kid who clearly doesn't want children and give it up for adoption. Whether her daughter and the father of the child marry or not, he won't be paying for anything...he's a kid himself and what, he is going to work for minimum wage in Alaska someplace and take care of his new family?? NO...the Palin's will pay for everything and make it all look like one big happy family. I think as a mother, her time should be focused on helping her 17 yr old daughter and 5 month old, Down's Syndrome son and NOT running for VP of the US because nanny's can take care of things for her. I don't care if "other people do it" or not...you as an elected official in the public eye are to be up to a higher standard than every day people. That's part of the deal when you become a public figure...Democrat or Republican, it makes no difference.

RH you are completely right. No parent, MAN or WOMAN, should ever run for office and try to make this country a better place. No way.

Does anyone even know if the Dad will plan on working or be a stay at home Dad should be elected? I haven't heard, just wondering. Because if the roles were reversed and it was the Dad running, there wouldn't even be a conversation about this.

and the award for longest post of the year goes to..........................
RH!! Congratulations.
i'm only kidding, i almost didnt read it because it was so long, but i'm glad i did. you speak the truth.
also congrats to spy_hunter for getting his "baby daddy" comment quoted by another.

so, what did everyone have for lunch?

I will give Sarah Palin credit for wowing the crowd, however as I listened there was nothing new. It was filled with the same fluff she used when she was introduced to the American people. As for liberals attacking, Sarah did her fair share last night when she went on a rampage about Barack Obama. Well, the debates will soon be held with the Presidential debate on Sept 26th and the Vice-Presidential debate on Oct 2nd and we will see who looks like they are ready to lead this country. One last thought, Sarah is no Hillary Clinton!

Nanny or intern, I don't think Bill Clinton set the standard for every man in the White House with a little time on his hands.

Whose words will Biden plagiarize for the debate? He hasn't had an original thought in the past 36 years.

grimjack --- Believe me, I have a sense of humor. I have a good laugh when I read your posts.

I'd say this quote sums up our lovely republican party...

"Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes, not need, just feed the war canibal animal
I walk the corner to the rubble that used to be a library, line up to the mind cemetery now
What we dont know keeps the contracts alive and movin
They dont gotta burn the books they just remove em
While arms warehouses fill as quick as tha cells"

WORD!

This is such great stuff!! The presidential election has turned into a wildwest gunslinging showdown. I love it!!! They all should have a huge debate here in person, they would fit right in. I find it interesting when the crowds for both conventions cheered after speeches. The Democrats yelled "Obama, Obama!" The Republicans yelled "USA, USA!" While I have concerns about who ever gets into the White House and how they will conduct actual business when they get there, these mindsets with the cheering answer alot for me. Obama is not a "Messiah"to be worshipped. We are a country that needs to work together to fix serious issues and they are not being addressed or fixed. At least the "USA" chant instills some type of unity. I am also not supporting a party that the media as a whole seems to want in office as well as many what I consider "terrorist" leaders throughout the country. As far as the trooper gate thing goes, from what I have found buried and obscured in my view purposely from the media limelight are disturbing things about the trooper himself.

You guys keep foaming at the mouth. Woman or not, looks like Palin has you all running around spewing anything to strike out. Hardly any of you discussed anything of value.

Sounds like you DEMwiddies have been drooling over the keyboard today.

Yawn.

why thank you gopguy.....for considering me to be a member of your sex. you should know that women( that would include me) do not simply vote their sex. i am a registered independent, and this woman's policies and beliefs are not what i look for in any candidate. her views on abortion are wrong, her unbelievable belief in the teaching of creationism, she shoots wolves for sport from helicopters .... i do not find it attractive that she can field dress a moose, nor am i impressed with her ability to deal with pressure. what was palin's solution to her problem with the rumor mill at daily kos? throw bristol to the wolves she so loves to hunt. not qualified, not attractive, not worldly enough, not informed in national affairs, not nearly sophisticated enough to become president. we might as well send in shearin.

suzyQ, i'm sorry you're getting tired and yawning... let's try and wake you up a bit... let's get to know the real suzyQ.. what are your likes, dislikes, etc... (we already know that you like Palin and dislike me, so tell us something new). feel free to tell us as little or as much as you like.

suzyq , just as john edwards ( and his dying wife) shamed himself by choosing to go forward with a national campaign with a scandal in the closet, this mother has chosen to follow her aspirations at the risk, no the absolute certainty, that the pregnancy was going to be fodder for the news. not only is it patently ridiculous for these parents to then cry foul when the children suffer, due directly to the parents own actions, but in both cases, innocent babies are being used. the real atrocity is that, even if you are a rabidly anti abortion advocate, the option of adoption is ( as far as i know )still MORALLY acceptable. in thrusting her five month pregnant child into the limelight, those last four months during which bristol palin could have had the CHOICE to change her mind are gone. that is selfishness at its zenith, and the definition of bad judgement and parenting.

heritage - put down the thesaurus!

LEGALLY yes, MORALLY- umm no, not where I come from.

I can't speak for her whether running is the best thing. We all have our callings in life, our talents to contribute, I know that I couldn't undertake what she is, but I do admire some of her accomplishments. It also appears she has a close-nit family with lots of support, that goes along way.

better get out your webster's. i can't dumb it down any lower than this, little grasshopper. would you like me to provide you with a good "word for the day" website so you can improve yourself?

suzy, you truly believe that adoption is not a viable option in the case of unwed young mothers? wow.

Awww shucks Ninja, I don't dislike anyone! I believe we all have a right to believe, vote accordingly, etc., even if you are wrong. ;-)

Hmmm...dislikes- I dislike South Belt McDonald's, oops that was a story ago. Umm, I actually think I dislike politics, but I like this incognito posting. LOL.

Likes: I'm a simple person. Fresh flowers make me smile. I'm a mama...just not an Obama-mama.

So, tell me, are you a real ninja?

How in the Hell has she made her daughter suffer. According to ABC one in three teenagers get pregnant. It is not longer the stigma it has been in the past!! As for the father of the baby being on stage I consider the father of my grandchildren to be part of my family.
Rh_ I am glad to hear you would not run for office as you are very negative.

Her: I don't believe unwed mothers/father's should be putting themselves in a position to get pregnant in the first place. That's the first mistake.

You actually condone abortion as a means of birth control? DOUBLE WOW!

grimjack- you sound as if you are googling any dirt you can come up with and posting it as fast as you can. Pretty entertaining! Are you just doing that for my benefit or gopguy?

Right on she (Palin) is no Hillary Clinton. It's probably a good thing Obama didn't select her for VP (although I think that would have secured him the Presidency), he was probably fearful that if he did, he would soon not be amongst the living and Hillary would finally get to be the president that her and BillyBoy always wanted.

Trust me, I am no where near your coochie coo.

You read the news? Gee, I would have never guessed. And it is clearly obvious that you don't have any values in place to base your decisions from.

"i'm a dem and a woman, and even i wouldn't have voted for that hag."

Okay Grim you got me here I was wrong, you do have some redeeming values after all. :)

suzy where did i say i am a proponent of using abortion as a means of birth control? i am saying that adoption is an option. one which, as far as i can tell, the candidate is not against, philosophically. as a hypothetical, if bristol palin had said that she did not want to keep this baby, but instead give it up for adoption, would you think that her mother should have said, no, you can't do that? or should sarah palin allow her minor daughter to have control over the child which she is carrying? whose rights trump whose? what if bristol palin didn't want to marry the father, live the rest of her life and actually get to grow up and give her baby to loving adoptive parents? is that not acceptable? are adoptive parents not an option?

The baby's right to life (once conceived) trumps all. I have no problem with adoption whatsoever. If she can't be a Mother to this baby, then she should consider giving it up to a loving couple. That is probably the most selfless thing a mother can do if she can't care for her child for whatever reason.

Her: I think I might owe you an oopsie,I just reread your post. I think when I read your post, I mistakenly read *abortion* where you had actually said *adoption*. This headcold and headache and lack of sleep must really be messing with me. Maybe my posts will make more sense now you know I thought you said she should have aborted it. Mea culpa.

suzyQ - yes, i am a real ninja... but i can't tell you much more about that... i pledged to the secret ninja code.
i enjoy long walks on the beach and candle lit dinners.

on the issue of abortion, i honestly believe there is some gray area with that. i'm not saying that i'm for abortion, but for example: what if a girl gets raped by a man with aids? does she have the right to abort the baby? or have the child and subject the child to a possible life of suffering and dying at a young age. or do you think that in this case the woman should have the child, then pray that God heals the baby of the disease? that's just something that i've thought about. i certainly don't think that abortion should be used as a form of birth control for irresponsible people... in the case of Palin's daughter, she was dumb enough to have sex and get pregnant... so that's her fault. in my view, she has no right to abort that child. she needs to have the baby and if she doesnt want the baby, give it up for adoption. there are plenty of good families out there waiting to adopt a healthy baby.

long live ninjas

Like it or not, she was eloquent and vivacious last night, and may have earned several thousand votes, as well as lost some.

She got a few slapshots on Obama, bodychecked the media, and faced off against doubts she was mainline government. A true hat trick.

I am concerned that she glossed over the Bristol situation. "Like all families, we have our ups and downs" qualifies as glossing over. If she was better at teaching her daughter NOT to do the up and down (or at least with protection), Palin wouldn't be facing Grandmahood.

Someone else mentioned how uncomfortable Babydaddy looked. I am wondering if he was forced to marry into the family by the lure of $$$ or threats of who-knows-what. I'm kinda thinking he didn't get down on his knees (insert joke if you like) and preach his love for the girl and beg for her hand in marriage. Yesterday may have been the first time ever the boy put on a suit.

There is a bigger issue that I have not seen addressed yet: If there is a special President/VP bathroom in the Oval Office, are there going to be problems about Seat Up / Seat Down?

DADicated- Good Points. But let’s be real about one thing, seventeen year olds do make stupid mistakes and make poor choices sometime no matter how good of upbringing they’ve had. They are embracing this as a family matter, as well as they should. So it really isn’t any of the public’s business.

Grimjack- Sounds like some of the outfits Hillary wore while she was first lady. You do know dela Renta was one of eighteen designers commissioned while she was first lady. If these are legitimate facts, why don’t you source them.

SuzyQ- All I can say is THANK GOD! Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton.

Ninja- I agree too, there are some gray areas. Definitely if a mother's life is threatened, she should have a right to abort. In the case of rape, I go back and forth on that one myself. I mean I wouldn't want to see people crying rape to get an abortion, but if she truly was, then...that would be hard for me to sit here and tell her that she is wrong if she terminated, but I guess I would hope that she would consider having it and giving it up for adoption. If she couldn't mentally handle it, then I don't know. You raised some good points.

What I have a HUGE problem with is abortions being used as birth control and it is ALOT.

And one last thing on that, although I vehmently disagree with abortions (for the latter reason), that is between them and their Maker, I speak out against it for the innocent lives lost.

Ninja...do you ever run into any pirates?

OOPS!! Correction to above:

Let's make that "...faced off against being considered mainline government."

I'll work on my proofreading skillz. scillz. scills. skils. skills.

thats okay suzy, i thought it was a mis-read. that settled, as a mother i am concerned over the decision of a mother to put their daughter in a position of having no road back, so to speak. in accepting the VP position palin effectively shut the door on the next four months of grace which young bristol and the father so deserve. where is this mother's sense?

So everyone who has a teenager get pregnant should shut them up and hide them from the world? One thing is for sure this baby will not be on welfare.
Thanks for the accounting on Cindi's clothes! She wears them great and can afford every one of them. Oh to be rich!!!

grimjack:

Do I detect a bit of envy of Cindy McCain’s wealth?

Also, do you believe everything you read on that far-left trash rag Vanity Fair?

grimjack:

I guess my main point was that Cindy McCain’s wealth doesn’t stop her from connecting with the rest of us. Read up on some of the things she’s done. She is one wealthy person who actually puts her money where her mouth is and helps people in need.

Sorry about your situation…hopefully things will get better for you.

azmaggie-

Did you dose off while watching ABC and dreamt someone on there said the teenage pregnancy rate equals 1 in 3? I can't imagine some mainstream media would make such a blatant mistake. I think the teenage pregnancy rate in the US is 53 out of 1000. That is a LONG ways from 1 in 3. And if you think about it, the statistic you posted would mean that 1/3 of all the teenagers you know are pregnant or have had a baby. If that is true, I would be moving out of my neighborhood if I were you-- there must be something in the water or air there :)

Wow, interesting reading here.

Obama is a speaker, a good speaker, but nothing more. What has he ever accomplished? Ever?

Nothing.

I was on the edge, it's a slam dunk no questions asked now -

Palin sealed the vote for me, it's going for her and that "old rich dude".

Dalearch- Did you see the video on Cindy McCain tonight? I had no idea what she was about, I was impressed. I think she will fit the mold of First Lady perfectly with her charitable works and contributions.

yea Cindy is Miss Wonderful America. Steal another woman's husband and steal drugs from her own charity at the same time. Miss Model America. What a Joke!!

As a Liberal and a Yellow dog Democrat with as much family values as society has dictated me to be (married to the same woman for almost 40 years, 3 adult children contributing to the betterment of our society, each with a college degree). Cindy McCain is an embarrassment to me and all of America. An adulteress, a husband thief and a person who would steal drugs that should have gone to poor children (a charity she started) is about as low as you can go.

Had any of us peons done what she did, we would be spending a good deal of time in prison. But being the child of privilege and the wife of a senator she gets to go to the RNC wearing a $300,000 outfit as a free woman. Seems we live in a society where a repulsive rich brat gets most of the breaks.

But hey, electing a president with unexplained ties to Illinois corruption and terriosts, shady business dealings, and associating himself with anti-American, marxism friends/beliefs is just what the doctor ordered for a President. I have to agree, that will be a change, however I believe offers little hope.

And maybe Michelle would be proud for the "second time" of her country should she get to be first lady. Talk about an embarrassment.

Do you want to talk about embarrassment? Check out this document from her days running as governor. What a joke.

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_palin_doc.html

You mean Bill Clinton did not embarrasse you?? Then Hillary just swep everything under the rug so he cound help her with her power search. And what about Bidden if obama is shot do you want him as POUS?? He faliled in his bid not he is running for VP?? What a joke. At least Palin will bring NEW BLOOD.

Heck, no, Clinton didn't embarrass me. He didn't sleep around on me or with me. Did McCain embarrass you because he slept around on his wife who had been disfigured in a car wreck and "no longer found attractive". What about his affair that resulted in his divorce and subsequent marriage to Cindy less than a month later? You can't have it both ways. The way I look at it is that neither of them slept with me or slept around on me so it probably really isn't any of my business. I haven't heard either of them put down others who have and, until I do, I don't really think it is an issue to me.

to azmaggie, and just what is a POUS? No I don't want him to become a persnickety, ornery, uppity snob (sounds like Cindy McCain to me) or a pompous, Oblique, unworldly snit, (Mr. 25% approval rating?)or a perpetual odious unlawful slob (Dick Cheney?) or a pious ominous unbeliever (of) science(Sarah Palin). But as POTUS yes he is more than qualified! But Palin, God help us all!

suzyQ:

Yes, I did see the video. It’s a shame that people like gingersnap, grimjack, ninja_man, KAS & the other vile people posting here won’t even view it. It would challenge the way they are told to think. “Think” is giving them a lot of credit though.

People like them are so disgusted with their own pathetic little lives that they need to lash out at people to try to make themselves feel better about themselves. Instead of looking at the good things someone – who is 1000 times more successful in life than they will ever even dream of being – has accomplished, they focus on things like her stealing prescription drugs because she became addicted to them. Many people become addicted to prescription drugs every year. The important thing is she overcame it.

I respect someone like Cindy McCain – who started at the top and still improved her life – much more than someone like the above people who started at the bottom and stayed there.

Oh, my gosh. Did someone forget to eat their Wheaties this morning? That is the most pathetic post I have read for a long time. The minute you start attacking other post-ers personally for having different views than you, you are just showing those of us who do think for ourselves the ignorance you possess.

I did not make my choice who I was going to vote for until McCain chose his VP nominee. I do not chose a candidate just because they have Republican or Democrat after their name, like you obviously did. I am not part of the pack mentality that you have shown over and over again. Just because it is a Republican view does not make it a view that everyone respects.

Many people who become addicted to prescription drugs don't chose to steal. She made the choice to steal the drugs from a charity she sponsored. Because she eventually overcame her drug addiction does not make this okay! Every drug addict can go steal drugs and we will look the other way if they eventually overcome their addiction??? Pretty ignorant way of thinking if you ask me. Wow, the courts will like your way of thinking though... it will sure lighten their work load.

Cindy McCain was born with a silver spoon in her mouth. How has she improved her life from what it would have been? Heck, if I were worth millions, I could do lots to make everyone think everything I do is absolutely wonderful too.

Starting at the bottom and staying at the bottom are a matter of opinion. I am not sure that if you knew my circumstances, you could claim I have "stayed there". Besides, it is much better to have started at the bottom and stayed there than started at the top and sunk to the bottom by resorting to name-calling or thievery.

suzyq- I had come to repect your views so I hope you don't fall victim to the bitterness and taunts of the previous post-er. I did watch a video on Cindy McCain. I was not as flattered by it as you obviously were but did you see me calling you names because of it? Decency and respect can go a lot further than ridicule and insults.

KAS:

You've proven my point for me.

If I have to explain how Cindy McCain improved her life, you wouldn't understand it anyway.

I didn't say "Every drug addict can go steal drugs and we will look the other way if they eventually overcome their addiction". Your taking it that way is just another liberal knee-jerk reaction.

dale--

How can someone talk out of both sides of their mouth, yet make no sense? No matter what anyone says, you think Cindy McCain is the bee's knees.

I was just pointing out that you were making excuses for felonious conduct by her. MOST people do not become addicted to drugs, most people do not steal from the charities they head and most people are not excused for felonious behavior because they went into rehab!

Lots of people improve their lives. You are going to have to explain to me how she has improved her life so much more than anyone else that it needs to be touted. By going from a mistress to wife? For overcoming her drug addiction? For refusing to acknowledge she has siblings? For marrying a politician? For overcoming a debilitating medical emergency? I am trying to figure out why you think this is so much important than other people who have improved their lives!

KAS:

I didn’t say that her improvement is more important than other people that have improved their lives. I’m saying that people like you ignore the fact that she did. You obviously would rather focus on the negatives and ignore the positives.

How did she improve her life you ask? She didn’t have to start the American Voluntary Medical Team or the Hensley Family Foundation – both to do charity work. She could have just as easily spent her life doing nothing but jetting around the world just enjoying life.

I don’t in any way, shape or form condone what she did, but to me, when someone is able to reach down inside themselves and overcome such things, they deserve some credit.

Dale-
Your last post was totally different than your first post.

I agree that starting her foundation is admirable but that does not make her any better than the next person. I will quote your post, "People like them ('them' meaning me and some others) are so disgusted with their own pathetic little lives that they need to lash out at people to try to make themselves feel better about themselves. Instead of looking at the good things someone – who is 1000 times more successful in life than they will ever even dream of being –" I took that quote as your saying she is better than me.

This is a subject that is quite close to home for me since my husband is very involved in charitable contributions- both time and money. I can guarantee that a larger percent of our income is spent on charity work than Cindy McCain's. I know a larger percent of our free time is given to supporting charities and those in need than many others but you don't see me tooting my horn to make everyone think that I am better than they are because this is what we have chosen to do with our lives.

Overcoming her drug addiction is praiseworthy. Anyone that overcomes an addiction, whether it is drugs, alcohol or even cigarettes, deserves our admiration.